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PostSubject: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:19 pm

I totally think this was the best dalek episode, it had everything, Davros/Emperor dalek, The Supreme dalek, grunt daleks, imperial daleks, the special weapons dalek, Dalek slaves, A mind control machine/battle computer, AND, you get to see the daleks fly upstairs.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:27 pm

That's a tough one. Definitely in my favorites. Genesis is good too. But, Remembrance does have a lot of action, and Totter's Lane.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:33 am

I love Remembrance. I think it's my favourite Classic Dalek Story.

Although, Genesis is pretty amazing but it's too long, I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:39 pm

I prefer "The Dead Planet" as my favorite Dalek story. Same with the Cushing film.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:19 pm

I think Remembrance is a better story in some ways, I love it. But Genesis has such iconic moments and is such a defining serial that, it makes choosing one anything over it hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:22 pm

The one big drawback to Rememberance, the almighty Black Dalek gets lonely at the end and spins around until he explodes. Not very Dalek-y was that? Not that I hate Rememberance, but it could have tied this bit up a little better. Oh, and exterminated the little girl instead of just letting her cry. That'll teach the little monsters not to mess with Daleks.

The Dead Planet has so much more Dalek evil without them acting out of character.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:27 pm

The Doctor was supposed to destroy the Black Dalek with a weapon, but McCoy felt it was not a 'Doctorish' thing to do, just as he was supposed to have the ATR and not Ace when they blew up the dalek in the school, so they changed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:35 pm

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The Doctor was supposed to destroy the Black Dalek with a weapon, but McCoy felt it was not a 'Doctorish' thing to do, just as he was supposed to have the ATR and not Ace when they blew up the dalek in the school, so they changed it.

I liked how it was Ace that did it, actually. It kind of fits with her character, and adds to it, plus everyon was surprised by it as well, which was an interesting moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:46 am

Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:52 am

It was ok, but no way was it the best Dalek episode. It was better than Destiny, and parts of The Chase, and every stinking second of Victory of the Daleks.

I know it's popular among fans, but McCoy's "unlimited rice pudding" speech I find dreadful. And blowing up Skaro was pointless, especially when the next time we see the Daleks, they're on Skaro!
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:58 am

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And blowing up Skaro was pointless, especially when the next time we see the Daleks, they're on Skaro!

Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey...

That moment with the upgraded bat is a central piece of why Ace is one of my favorites. That, and Sophie just looked great in that tiger-print leotard... but, uh, that wasn't from Doctor Who.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:30 pm

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I know it's popular among fans, but McCoy's "unlimited rice pudding" speech I find dreadful. And blowing up Skaro was pointless, especially when the next time we see the Daleks, they're on Skaro!

Yep, ranks up there with #10 apologizing every time something/one gets killed, or "Cupcake" from that dreadful 2009 Star Trek film.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:59 pm

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It was ok, but no way was it the best Dalek episode. It was better than Destiny, and parts of The Chase, and every stinking second of Victory of the Daleks.

I know it's popular among fans, but McCoy's "unlimited rice pudding" speech I find dreadful. And blowing up Skaro was pointless, especially when the next time we see the Daleks, they're on Skaro!
Well, that was because he didn't actually destroy skaro, see, he only horribly burnt the out side of the planet, so any daleks that were inside skaro survived.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:00 pm

The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:28 pm

Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:57 pm

The Castellan wrote:
Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.

he was especially stupid in Remembrance, I must admit. Although, I didn't take the story so seriously, it was just an exciting dalek episode. Genesis, on the other hand, was dark and serious all the way through.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:40 pm

kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.

he was especially stupid in Remembrance, I must admit. Although, I didn't take the story so seriously, it was just an exciting dalek episode. Genesis, on the other hand, was dark and serious all the way through.

I liked the pre-Genesis stories myself more. They had personalities and cooler voices. afro
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:58 pm

The Castellan wrote:
kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.

he was especially stupid in Remembrance, I must admit. Although, I didn't take the story so seriously, it was just an exciting dalek episode. Genesis, on the other hand, was dark and serious all the way through.

I liked the pre-Genesis stories myself more. They had personalities and cooler voices. afro

Ahhh, would you believe I've never seen ANY pre-genesis daleks in action?
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:56 pm

kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.

he was especially stupid in Remembrance, I must admit. Although, I didn't take the story so seriously, it was just an exciting dalek episode. Genesis, on the other hand, was dark and serious all the way through.

I liked the pre-Genesis stories myself more. They had personalities and cooler voices. afro

Ahhh, would you believe I've never seen ANY pre-genesis daleks in action?

You missed a lot, then. They actually got more done in those ones, and had personality and different voices. In the Dead Planet, you can see the sucker arms moving about (why don't we see that anymore?), and when redy to kill the Thal Chief, you could see the Dalek gun arms moving all twitchy and fiddly....as if they are getting anxious, and possibly impatient, to kill. Same with the eyes, one can see the iris dilating when they were getting devious. Little bits like that made the earlier Daleks more life like.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:01 pm

yes, they had more personality and life back then. In Dead Planet, even though they could not leave the city, they were a bigger menace. They do some of the twitching in the modern show. I think it helps get the point across that they are alive, and not robots.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:03 pm

The Castellan wrote:
kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
kcooper76 wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Invisible Supreme wrote:
The Castellan wrote:
Another strike against Remembrance:


Davros, and his stupidity. Rolling Eyes
Davros is stupid in every one of his episodes.

Quite.

he was especially stupid in Remembrance, I must admit. Although, I didn't take the story so seriously, it was just an exciting dalek episode. Genesis, on the other hand, was dark and serious all the way through.

I liked the pre-Genesis stories myself more. They had personalities and cooler voices. afro

Ahhh, would you believe I've never seen ANY pre-genesis daleks in action?

You missed a lot, then. They actually got more done in those ones, and had personality and different voices. In the Dead Planet, you can see the sucker arms moving about (why don't we see that anymore?), and when redy to kill the Thal Chief, you could see the Dalek gun arms moving all twitchy and fiddly....as if they are getting anxious, and possibly impatient, to kill. Same with the eyes, one can see the iris dilating when they were getting devious. Little bits like that made the earlier Daleks more life like.

ooh. well, I just started watching Pertwee, so I'm excited to see those ones soon. I also want to see "Dalek Invasion of Earth" and "The Chase" definitely, if only they weren't so expensive to buy . . . Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:09 pm

My favourite McCoy episode, tho' Fenric comes in close 2d. Completely gave me a new view of Daleks, no longer confined to flat surfaces, brought back the whole "racial purity" thing from Genesis, &c. Plus Ace whacking that Dalek with the Louisville just reminded me so much of my favourite holiday, Whacking Day.
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:22 pm

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Dalek Masterplan

I wish I could agree. I've seen every episode that's still on film, and read quite a few of the old Target novelizations, but never read Masterplan and never saw any of the footage that's left (or heard the audio, if it exists--if it does, ca-ching, there goes a few more coppers from under the ol' visco mattress. I'm assuming you're familiar with the story, Hoosier? Its that good?
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PostSubject: Re: Remembrance of the daleks, best dalek episode?   Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:47 pm

Yeah, I have the CD and also the DVD Lost in Time that has the three existing episodes.

I didnt get around to reading the Target books, but do have them.
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