Doctor Who Discussion Forum for Who North America customers
 
HomeFAQSearchRegisterMemberlistUsergroupsLog inThe Who North America Online Store

Share | 
 

 Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
Whovian
RANK: Brigadier


Number of posts : 296
Registration date : 2009-07-30

PostSubject: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:41 pm

I just watched a couple of Tom Baker episodes after having not seen them in about 25 years or so. Here are my critiques.

Warriors' Gate

Thinking back on this episode, I remembered next to nothing about it. So I popped it in to see what it was about. It starts off somewhat interesting, with the slave ship in E-space. There's a certain mystery about the captain and his crew. Where exactly did they come from? Where were they headed with their cargo? The robot guards at the gate were cool, and there was a certain mystery about them too. Who made them? What was their purpose? The lion people (time sensitives) weren't as interesting. It's like they needed a creature for the episode so they took a person and put some fur on him. Pretty lame. The whole story builds up and draws you in. By the end of the 3rd episode, you're waiting for some huge chunk of revelatory knowledge to drop. But it never happens. The captain decides to commit suicide (with his entire crew) for no reason, the lion people conveniently escape, and Romana decides to leave the Doctor on a whim. What just happened?!? No wonder this episode was entirely forgettable. I give it a C- for showing a lot of potential, but completely falling apart at the end.

Horns of Nimon

Now here's a creature I remember. I was a kid when I first saw this, and I thought the Nimon were pretty creepy hanging out in their labyrinth. After another watch, I still like this story. Well-paced and to the point. I like the whole concept of the Nimon going from world to world like locusts. The pod that they used to travel in was cool too. Very reminiscent of the Sontaran ship. Seeing the Nimon today looks a little goofy with the black platform shoes, but the concept itself is scary if you use your imagination. Great story that still holds up over time. I give it an A- for good overall plot, inventive creatures/threat, witty Baker humor, and consistent nostalgia value.

Horns of Nimon trumps Warriors' Gate by a long shot.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
DacaZ
RANK: Brigadier


Number of posts : 418
Age : 44
Registration date : 2009-06-07

PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:36 pm

I'll go the other way. I'll take Warriors Gate any day.

I don't think I would say Romana chose to leave The Doctor on a whim. She was clearly not happy about returning to Gallifrey. I think she saw the opportunity and took it. Especially since they were on the verge of finding their way back into N-Space.

I love Warrior's Gate. Its got some issues, but I just think the story is really great. I liked how you got to see various stages of the Empire rise and decay. It was an interesting take on perspectives on history. The Tharils start out as a target of sympathy because they're slaves, then you realize they were the enslavers and got their comeupance. Do they deserve what they got or have they learned their lesson? Are they entitled to redemption? Its a far more thought provoking story then many of the other episodes of the time.

It also has one of my favorite Tom Baker lines... "when the pickles run out."

Horns of Nimon is just sci-fi schlock for me. Not a bad thing. Its an enjoyable episode, but that's about it.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.figurefanzero.com
rdks
RANK: Celestial Intervention Agent


Number of posts : 3520
Age : 44
Registration date : 2008-08-22

PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:01 pm

Whovian wrote:
Horns of Nimon trumps Warriors' Gate by a long shot.

I agree. I love Horns of Nimon. It's just good fun. It's like 80's pop music - Try and take it seriously and you'll hate it, but if you just enjoy the cheesiness of it, then you're in for a laugh.

I have never watched Warrior's Gate all the way through. When I was a kid it was on PBS every couple of months and it always bored me to death. I tried watching it when the DVD came out but it still couldn't hold my interest.

I can't wait for Horns to come out on DVD!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Guest
Guest



PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm

I did like the weirdness of Warriors Gate, but the runaround fun of Horns of Nimons gets my vote. And Romana's hunting outfit makes it a definite must see!
Back to top Go down
Evil Monkey Pope
RANK: Time Lord Council Guard


Number of posts : 1829
Registration date : 2007-07-16

PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:05 am

The Horns of Nimon is superior, you weakling scum!
Back to top Go down
View user profile https://mattthecatania.wordpress.com/
greenk9
RANK: Time Lord Commoner


Number of posts : 1313
Age : 45
Registration date : 2007-10-20

PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:13 pm

horns of nimon for me too... extra cheesey- I love the paper bull masks...very surreal.

Warrior's gate- the fella kicked k-9!!!!!!! How dare they!!!!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate   Today at 4:02 am

Back to top Go down
 
Horns of Nimon versus Warriors' Gate
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Who North America Forum :: Doctor Who Fan Section :: Episode Discussion-
Jump to: