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PostSubject: Punisher movies   Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:22 pm

I know this isn't really sci-fi, but I want the opinion of people whose opinions I trust...

I have never seen a Punisher movie before today. I'm watching the Travolta version (and I can't say how relieved I am that he's the bad guy and not Frank Castle).

I never cared enough for the character beyond guest appearances in Spider-Man or Avengers back in my comic-book reading days, but given how much I've enjoyed other comic-book-movies based on titles I didn't care about enough to read (I'm that rare guy who didn't like Wolverine or X-Men comics), I'm giving this character a chance.

Thomas Jane, himself a fan, says that there is no "definitive" movie version (including his own), but I wonder what you guys think is the best adaptation?
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PostSubject: Re: Punisher movies   Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:03 am

I prefer War Zone out of the 3 official versions. Shoot 'Em Up is my favorite overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Punisher movies   Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:43 am

To me, Punisher has always worked best as a character separate from the rest of the Marvel U. To this end, the Punisher MAX series was always my favorite. R-rated, and operating in a more 'real' world without any costumed heroes. Although, they did introduce Kingpin and Bullseye toward the end of the series.

The 80s Dolph Lundgren movie was a fun revenge film, but didn't bear much resemblance to the comic character. Thomas Jane's Punisher was much closer, but I'm not sure the grand Shakesperean plot of revenge he had fit that well with MY Frank Castle. Now, War Zone, IMO, came closest to capturing the feel of the MAX comics. Except for the cheesy dialogue, this one stayed pretty true to the roots of the character. One problem is that Frank ages in real time. In the MAX books, he was a vietnam vet. But the movies are all set in present day, so they have to have him be younger.

The Garth Ennis Punisher Max run, lasting 66 issues, is some of the most brutal stuff you will ever see in a Marvel book. As I said, War Zone comes close to the level of sadistic violence in this run.

So it depends on your taste. Thomas Jane's Punisher feels like a more violent part of the larger Marvel Universe (Like Netflix's Daredevil). It's plausible to see his Punisher interacting with Spiderman, or the Avengers. Still r-rated, but there's kind of a brutal nobility to what he does.

Then with War Zone, it's off the leash ultraviolence. This punisher would bury a machete in Spiderman's skull. But your mileage may vary.

The only non-official Punisher film I have seen is Dirty Laundry, and that is an amazing achievement. Thomas Jane plays a nameless vigilante, and teaches some harsh lessons to street thugs. I actually watched this with a friend of mine who is a cop, and he loved it too.
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PostSubject: Re: Punisher movies   Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:40 pm

I didn't like Dirty Laundry because Punisher had to guilt tripped into punishing the criminals right outside. You have one job, Frank!
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