401: Partners in Crime

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401: Partners in Crime

Please keep in mind that that this episode has already aired in the UK. This thread will probably contain LOTS of spoilers. If you don't want to ruin the fun, you may want to come back once the episode airs on SciFi in a few weeks.

Joined : 12 Aug 2007 Posts : 158

Well, I liked it. Yes, it was a bit light and fluffy, but I needed that after the trauma of the Torchwood finale. pale

And I shrieked at the end!
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You'll understand when you see it...

Joined : 01 Feb 2007 Posts : 224

I kinda shrieked. I mean, if you follow the series press, you knew eventually you see . . . But plenty of mystery to it, and I look forward to seeing that resolved.

Like most of the first stories of the season, it was okay, not great. It was silly, and I loved the meeting between Donna and the Doctor with them pantomiming at the windows.

My biggest issue was that the the stakes were never clear. I mean, sure it got nasty in parts, but I'd happily take the pill and lose some weight if they'd just ask, as would many others, I'm sure, so why even hide it? And then the fat leaves. Okay. Bye, fat. It made little sense to me.

I'm one of those who thinks this is DT's last season, but we'll see. He's had a great run, and I'm sure the rest of the season will be good. Just those pesky first episodes.

Joined : 01 Sep 2007 Posts : 355

I quite liked it, especially the old friend at the end Very Happy

, I jumped up and down, I haven't seen the Torchwood finale yet, I recorded it, but I accidently found out what happened.

I liked it better than 'New Earth' and 'Smith and Jones', wasn't as good as 'Rose' though (obviously!) As you said AC Rempt, I liked the conversation through the windows, and especially when Donna looked round and realised they had been seen, I laughed at that, I knew it would happen though. I also liked the window cleaner's lift scene when Miss Foster breaks the cable.

It didn't have enough action in it, that's what I thought anyway, but I loved the Adipose, they were adorable! I loved their little fang! I thought that the pill was a great plot. I also found out the idea about the necklace, by the time Donna had got to the customer's house. Also, I don't think we had enough background info, on the Adipose and Miss Foster, I'd would have liked to have heard more about what happened so we found out why they did this, we do know why but I'd like to have known more of the backstory.

Overall, it was pretty good. I have to disagree, I don't think this will be David Tennant's last season, I won't mind if he leaves, its his choice, I'll carry on watching the show. I bet the rest of the season will be fantastic, hopefully they'll have storylines just as good as this one.

Age : 37 Joined : 20 Oct 2007 Posts : 300

Pretty much agree with the comments made so far regarding this episode. As I had said in the past to give Donna a chance...well she really improved to me in my opinion. They toned her down...she kind of in a weird way reminds me of Velma on Scooby Doo. The comedy in this ep was top notch...I found myself just smiling an awful lot. I do not mind a light episode to kick off the show. If there is a proper balance between comedy and drama and sci fi... who should do well. As for the ending...wow did not expect that so soon. I think the bad wolf this year is not going to be words but a visual cue scattered in one or two episodes but not as prolific as in the past (like torchwood, torchwood, torchwood).

Joined : 08 Jan 2008 Posts : 60

The episode what light fluff but I enjoyed it. Donna should turn out to be a fine companion for the Doctor (at least she ain't in love with him for a change). And the surprise at the end ties in with the theme of the series. Looking forward to the next episode.

The one gripe I have to say for the new series as a whole is that the format is too fixed (that is, when historical characters appear, the lite Doctor episode, restricted almost all the episode to Earth instead of traveling to other planets as they did with the old show). Maybe when series 5 arrives, there will be more variation.

Joined : 01 Feb 2007 Posts : 224

The more I think about the episode, the less I like it. Here they have a character who is packing a sonic screwdriver-like device, and the whole idea is wasted. We've gone decades without another alien having such a thing, and here they use it as a throw-away, LITERALLY!

By the way, did he throw it away in the same bin as Donna threw her mom's keys? I so want this to lead to something and not just be wasted!

The nanny was so a Rani knock off, and we should have had a kick ass Rani story. Blah. Silly story, but it's over now. Let's get on with the season.

Admin Joined : 01 Feb 2007 Posts : 365

I liked it more than I thought I would. I still don't particularly like Donna, but I don't think we really need to. Its nice to see the Doctor face a new type of relationship with his companion. I don't think this is David's last season, but I do think that RTD will try to make us think that it is - leading into something really big for next year's specials. I don't see think they'll introduce a entirely new Doctor during a semi-hiatus season. Well see soon enough, I imagine.

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Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take to get "life size" adipost stuffed doll?

Age : 37 Joined : 20 Oct 2007 Posts : 300

CJS-Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take to get "life size" adipost stuffed doll?...

I would sure want one...as a reminder to lose weight the proper way. Oh sorry the little girl in me finds them cute...nice fluffy start...the wait is finally over. Bring on series 4.

As for Tennant...I think he will probably leave in the x-mas special in 09. I'm just enjoying the messy hair fella as long as we can get him. When the time comes for a new doc I'll welcome him with open arms.

Age : 39 Joined : 01 Feb 2007 Posts : 891

Sci Fi gets the new series in two weeks along with Sarah Jane Adventures and Galactica, a reason to stay home on friday apart from gas costing an arm and a leg!

Now to wait for showtime to put on Secret Diary of a Call Girl, although I have seen it already, it is quite good

Joined : 08 Jan 2008 Posts : 60

It's going to be interesting to see what gets cut since this eppie ran for over 48 minutes when they've run about 44 in the past.

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Age : 38 Joined : 10 Aug 2007 Posts : 172

the adipose were cute, Rose was brill

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Joined : 16 Feb 2008 Posts : 375

i thought it was fantastic.i loved the little adipose.they was so cute.i really hope they make a miss foster figure with sonic pen and little adipose figures that would be size of her foot lol

Age : 35 Joined : 19 Jun 2007 Posts : 241

Anyone else notice that Gramps was the newspaper box guy from VOTD? I didn't either until now, just finished rewatching VOTD and had a wait a minute moment, popped on this ep and sure enough, same character, complete with hat.

After rewatching rest of this episode, I'm left with more questions though. In "School Reunion" K-9 couldn't break a dead seal lock, in any episode the Doctor's sonic screwdriver can't break a dead lock, yet Ms. Foster's pen could break a dead lock seal on the building and again on a triple dead lock on her system, so why pitch it? It sounds more powerful than the screwdriver, why not use it to modify the screwdriver? I know, it's all fluff, the pen must just have been keyed in to the seals and was able to access it because she programmed the seals with her pen. Okay, so how could the pen break the lock the Doctor made on the window wash lift? It didn't program the lock, but it broke it, so again the pen is mightier, why not keep it?
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Joined : 05 Feb 2007 Posts : 344

I thought it was great that the doctor put down guidelines with Donna which he never did with Rose or Martha, maybe he's learned from the past. no Nightengale effect going here Donna just want the experience of travelling with him, I think she will be fine. R appearing was really such a tease and I'm just going to pretend it didn't happen otherwise my mind will race in every direction trying to figure out what's going to be happening. Pre DW SJS- did everyone catch the nod to the sontarens from the old lady. SJS probably only because it has to embraces it DW heritage and my son admited he almost likes it better than DW. Easier for him to digest.
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Joined : 11 Feb 2008 Posts : 266

Donna's character was certainly more "palatable" than her first appearance.

The Adipose babies were cute.

Someone on another board had mentioned that if Donna hadn't been involved, no one would have probably died since the Nanny was trying to keep it as quiet as possible. When that one person witnessed what happened, she had no choice but to kill her. Plus, when the Doctor was revealed, the Nanny accelerated the process for full transformation of people. If both of them hadn't involved themselves, the Nanny probably would've finished what she wanted to do and leave (or die anyway for that matter) and many fat blokes would've become thinner. It certainly evokes the thought that despite good intentions, bad things can happen because of them.
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Age : 37 Joined : 20 Oct 2007 Posts : 300

one of the best scenes of all time...when Donna reunites with the Doctor. I was wondering about Gramps...he does not have a first name...wonder if he is going to be someone...noticed a pin on his hat...was that a unit pin? Plus there will be some significance to the doc and donna pitching stuff in the garbage bin. As for Rose...that was a huge surprise...she was wearing a purple leather jacket...is it really rose or the bad wolf? Or or or...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh red herrings as Poriot would say.

Fire of Pomei...just you wait kids this one is a real gem!